This is very disturbing Rea.... I can't think about a children's rhyme like this ( mind me, just waking up...) but it gets you wondering what this man was thinking 🤔
Alot of children's nursery rhymes are jacked up. Like "london bridge is falling down, falling down, london bridges falling down my fair lady. Take the key and lock her up, take the key and lock her up. My fair lady..." that taking the key and lock her up, suspect and not kool.
We have ring around the rosie in English... Pocketful of Poseys. Left over and prompted by the era of Plague when the dead were in the streets and the flowers were carried to ward off the stench. So many children's stories are disturbing. I don't think it's only the translation, but harsh messages to teach lessons? I don't know! Grimm's fairy tales were also quite Grim! Love, Virg
That’s a really awful rhyme, Rea. A lot of nursery rhymes are mean, I think. How about the old woman who lived in a shoe—sounds like child abuse. “she whipped them all soundly and put them to bed.”
Unfortunately, many children in the U.S. like me used to recite so many lyrics that were disturbing. We used to sing Ring Around the Rosie, "a pocket full of posey, ashes, ashes, we all fall down." This is about a plague, where the rosie part was a rash, I believe, and posey was supposed to cover it up. Not sure, but it is ominous.
This is very disturbing Rea.... I can't think about a children's rhyme like this ( mind me, just waking up...) but it gets you wondering what this man was thinking 🤔
...and we sang along with it! Good morning sunshine!
😊 Good afternoon!
😊❤️
Alot of children's nursery rhymes are jacked up. Like "london bridge is falling down, falling down, london bridges falling down my fair lady. Take the key and lock her up, take the key and lock her up. My fair lady..." that taking the key and lock her up, suspect and not kool.
We grew up with violent songs. Goodness gracious! What does that teach a child?
It's a nice summation of life's brutality.
At the same time, good Lord. Haha.
I agree, Parker!
We have ring around the rosie in English... Pocketful of Poseys. Left over and prompted by the era of Plague when the dead were in the streets and the flowers were carried to ward off the stench. So many children's stories are disturbing. I don't think it's only the translation, but harsh messages to teach lessons? I don't know! Grimm's fairy tales were also quite Grim! Love, Virg
Now that I’m an adult I enjoy the Grimm tales. It could be to teach a lesson, but goodness!
That’s a really awful rhyme, Rea. A lot of nursery rhymes are mean, I think. How about the old woman who lived in a shoe—sounds like child abuse. “she whipped them all soundly and put them to bed.”
It’s disturbing that they seem to promote violence.
That’s really disturbing, although as I’m led so are those historically learned by British children.
Very fortunately I lived elsewhere!!
I wonder why it became so popular?
"Jack and Jill went up the hill
To fetch a pail of water.
Jack fell down and broke his crown,
And Jill came tumbling after.
Up Jack got, and home did trot,
As fast as he could caper,
He went to bed to mend his head
With vinegar and brown paper."
Or, the Baltimore version:
"Jack and Jill went up the hill,
Each with a buck and a quarter.
Jill came down with two and a half.
I don't think they went up for water"
Patch up your pain with vinegar and paper. Can you imagine?
"Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie,
Kissed the girls and made them cry,
When the boys came out to play,
Georgie Porgie ran away."
What did it teach us? That it’s a game. Disturbing when you look at it from our view.
Yes, absolutely! And given hundreds of repetitions, I wonder how many grooves got etched in our minds
Etched is the right word.
A not-so-subtle conditioning to the "ways of the world." How morally nihilistic.
Exactly my thoughts, Stephen!
I've been saying this for years! I've also translated it for all my friends! 😂
No wonder we are crazy! 😆
Oh my goodness! 🫣
My sentiments precisely!
A lot of the rhymes we know today as childrens songs started as political comment.
Its thought the fair lady in london bridge refered to one of the unfortunate queens who were imprisoned.
Humpty dumpty could have referred to a seige in the english civil war.
I don’t think this Afrikaans rhyme had anything to do with politics. Interesting, Jane.
Probably not. There are a lot of violent nursery songs, too. I never understood punch and judy either.
Rea, disturbing lyrics indeed!
Unfortunately, many children in the U.S. like me used to recite so many lyrics that were disturbing. We used to sing Ring Around the Rosie, "a pocket full of posey, ashes, ashes, we all fall down." This is about a plague, where the rosie part was a rash, I believe, and posey was supposed to cover it up. Not sure, but it is ominous.
We recited the same here in South Africa. We didn’t even know what it meant.
We didn't know what it meant either. Ugh.